Corporal 2097 Edward John Lloyd

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 Commemorated on family grave in Mossley Cemetery, Manchester. Photo courtesy of 'kaycee' on www.findagrave.com

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 Edward Lloyd's name on Menin Gate, Ypres. Photo courtesy of 'kaycee' on www.findagrave.com

Killed in Action on Saturday, 10th July 1915, age 42.
Commemorated on Panel 36 and 55 of Ypres (Menin Gate) Memorial, Ieper, West-Vlaanderen, Belgium.

5th Bn., York & Lancaster Regiment. 148th Brigade of 49th Division.

Husband of Mary Emma Lloyd, of 73, Manchester Rd., Mossley, Manchester.
Born: Tipton, Enlisted: Rotherham, Resident: Unknown.

First landed France & Flanders, 13th April 1915.
Medal entitlement: 1914-15 Star, British War Medal, Victory Medal.
Soldier's Papers at National Archives survived and transcribed.

Not commemorated on any Tipton memorial.
Commemorated here because identified as Tipton on 'Soldiers Died in the Great War'.

Link to Commonwealth War Graves Site: www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/1619154/

Genealogical Data

Birth of Edward John Lloyd registered March quarter 1873 in Dudley.

1881 Census
5 Dunns Place, Owen Street, Tipton, Staffs.
Elizabeth Lloyd (31, born Tipton), and her 2 children: Susan (10, Scholar, born Tipton), and Edward J. (8, Scholar, born Tipton).

1891 Census
3 Albert Street, Masbrough, Rotherham, Yorkshire.
John Lloyd (45, Iron Worker, born Willenhall), his wife Elizabeth (46, born Tipton), and their son: Edward J. (18, Clerk in Steel Works, born Tipton).

Marriage of Edward John Lloyd and Mary Emma Marshall registered June quarter 1899 in Ecclesall, Sheffield. (23rd May 1899 at St. Bartolomew's Church, Sheffield).

1901 Census
77 Midland Road, Rotherham, Yorkshire.
Living with her sister-in-law, Olive Lloyd, was Mary Emma Lloyd (25, Married, born Sheffield), and Mary's daughter: Elsie (1, born Rotherham).
Edward was serving with the Imperial Yeomanry in South Africa.

1911 Census
20 Forge Lane, Rotherham, Yorkshire.
Edward John Lloyd (38, Sawyer, born Tipton), his wife Mary Emma (35, born Sheffield), and their 5 surviving children of 6: Elsie (11, born Rotherham), Lilian (9, born Sheffield), Colin (7, born Rotherham), Rita (2, born Sheffield), and Edward (10 months, born Sheffield).
A further child, George, was born in 1913.

Personal Data

Edward Lloyd was born in Tipton in 1873, but the entire Lloyd family moved to Rotherham between 1881 and 1891.

Edward Lloyd enlisted with the 5th (Territorial) Battalion, York & Lancaster (5/Y&L) Regiment in Rotherham on 8th August 1914. He was 41 years and 7 months old, 5 feet 6 inches tall with a 36-inch chest and his eyesight and physical development described as ‘good’. His occupation was ‘Engineer at Rotherham Forge’.

Edward stated that he had previously served in the Yorkshire Imperial Yeomanry. He had enlisted in Doncaster on 14th February 1901 for 1 year with the Colours, and stated that he had already served 3½ years with the East Yorkshire Militia. Within a month, Edward was on his way to the South African War where he served for almost 18 months, being discharged on 30th August 1902 in Aldershot as Lance Corporal 27988 entitled to the Queen’s South Africa Medal with Transvaal Bar.

Edward was appointed Lance Corporal (unpaid) on 16th November 1914 whilst still training in England. Embarking at Folkestone, he landed in France on 13th April 1915, then on 25th May 1915 he was promoted to Corporal.

After Edward’s death, his outstanding army pay and allowances amounted to £7/7/8d (7 pounds, 7 shillings and 8 pence); this was paid to his widow, Mary Emma, in November 1915 and June 1916. His War Gratuity was £4/0/0d (4 pounds exactly), this was also paid to his widow in July 1919. Mary Emma was awarded a Widow’s Pension of £1/7/6d (1 pound, 7 shillings and 6 pence) for herself and her 6 children, effective from 31st January 1916.

Action resulting in his death

The 1/5th York and Lancaster Regiment (1/5 Y&L) embarked at Folkstone and landed at Boulogne on 13th April 1915, as one of the battalions of 49th (West Riding) Division. They arrived near Fleurbaix around a week later, being introduced to trench duties alongside more experienced troops. They remained here for the next 2 months, taking their turn alternating between front-line, support and reserve duties. Their first fatality was on 27th April (Pte Samuel Mellor), and they had 15 men killed in the first 2 months.

On 26th June they began a slow move to the Ypres Salient, after a few days arriving at a camp near Watou, about 10 miles west of Ypres. They remained here for a number of days, being inspected by General Plumer on 3rd July. On the evening of 9th July, they marched to take up position on the east bank of the Yser canal near Boesinghe, about 3 miles north of Ypres. They were in position by 1.30am on the 10th July.

The events of that day, sadly Ernest Lloyd’s final day, are best explained by quoting from the 1/5 Y&L War Diary:
” During the whole of the day the trenches occupied by the Battalion were heavily bombarded by the enemy and the parapets blown in in several places. One machine gun was overturned and buried together with most of the team, one of who was killed and one wounded.
The casualties during this period were heavy amounting to 27 Other Ranks killed, Captain S. Rhodes and 127 Other Ranks wounded and 2 Other Ranks missing.
About 8.00pm our guns opened up a heavy fire in reply to the hostile guns and after a bombardment lasting about 1½ hours succeeded in silencing the enemy’s guns for the time being”.

The shelling had commenced at 3.00am and continued until 10.00pm with just a 2-hour pause from 6.00pm. The Commonwealth War Graves records 30 men of the 1/5 Y&L killed on 10th July; the severity of the bombardment can be judged as none of the 30 men has a known grave, all being commemorated on the Menin Gate.

Although Edward does not have a known grave, he is commemorated on the grave surround of a family grave in Mossley Cemetery, Lancashire. This can be seen in the photograph above which is courtesy of ‘kaycee’ from www.findagrave.com.

Newspaper Cuttings