Private 15229 Horace Green

Killed in Action on Sunday, 26th September 1915, age 30.
Commemorated on Panel 105 and 106 of Loos Memorial, Pas De Calais, France.

10th Bn., York & Lancaster Regiment. 63rd Brigade of 21st Division.

Son of the late Samuel and Maria Green, of Princes End, Tipton; husband of Nancy Green, of 36, High Street, Princes End, Tipton, Staffs.
Born: Princes End, Enlisted: Rotherham, Resident: Unknown.

First landed France & Flanders, 10th September 1915.
Medal entitlement: 1914-15 Star, British War Medal, Victory Medal.
Soldier's Papers at National Archives did not survive.

Commemorated on the Tipton Library, and St. John's memorials.
Commemorated here because he appears on a Tipton memorial.

Link to Commonwealth War Graves Site: www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/1764172/

Genealogical Data

1901 Census
3 Victoria Street, Sedgley, Staffs.
Samuel Green (40, Iron Works Puddler, born Princes End). His wife Maria (37, born Summer Hill), and their 3 children: Horace (16, Blast Furnace Coke Filler, born Princes End), Eliza (14, born Princes End), and Elizabeth (7, born Princes End).

1911 Census
57 Saville Street, Dalton, nr Rotherham, Yorks.
Horace Green (27, Coal Miner, born Princes End), his wife Nancy (29, born Princes End), and their 3 surviving children of 5: Horace (4, born Princes End), Mary E. (3, born Princes End), and Florence (1, born Princes End).

Personal Data

Horace and his wife and 2 children moved from Tipton to Dalton, near Rotherham, in 1910/1911, he was employed as a Miner.

Action resulting in his death

The 21st Division was a Reserve Division brought up to reinforce at the end of the first day at Loos - they were only a few days in France and had no experience of warfare. They were marched from too far back, and arrived exhausted at a confused time with no real idea where they were or what they were to do. The handling of the 21st and 28th Reserve Divisions led to the Commander-in-Chief, Sir John French being replaced by his second-in-command Sir Douglas Haig. They lost many men including two Tipton-born men: Horace Green and Richard Bartley who did not survive their first day on the front line, and could well have never fired their rifles in anger. Neither has a known grave and both are commemorated on the Loos Memorial at Dud Corner.

"Loos 1915" by Nick Lloyd (page 169)
"21st Division was one of the two Divisions who suffered so badly on the second day of the Battle of Loos. This was after an exhausting march from their location 20 miles to the west of the battlefield. The two Divisions were subject to confusion af command and control, and the politics of the relationship between French and Haig over who controlled the reserve Divisions.

During the hours of darkness, 63rd Brigade had taken up advanced positions around Chalk Pits and Bois Hugo and started digging in, but as early as 9am enemy pressure had started to increase. 63rd Brigade was facing the brunt of a vicious German counter-attack from the far side of Bois Hugo. Despite causing heavy casualties to the German attackers, parties of 8th Lincolns and 12th West Yorkshires were flooding abck across the Lens-Hulloch road to the corner of the Chalk Pit. 15 minutes later, large parties of the 63rd Brigade were retreating steadily west. Two companies of 10th Yorks and Lancasters were sent to reinforce 8th Lincolns, but the order was misunderstood and the whole Battalion rushed down through Chalk Pit Wood into an enemy bombardment.

21st Division were committed to an extremely dangerous situation, hampered by a catastrophic series of handicaps, including the lack of information, the poor coordination of men, heavy enemy attacks and very little artillery support."

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